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 Oggetto del messaggio: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga
MessaggioInviato: lun 13 gen 2014, 16:04 
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Località: Torino
Players: 1401

Deck Name: WUR Midrange Position: 1
Vjeran Horvat


Creatures [13]
1 Restoration Angel
1 Thundermaw Hellkite
3 Vendilion Clique
4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Snapcaster Mage

Instants [22]
2 Mana Leak
3 Cryptic Command
3 Electrolyze
3 Path to Exile
3 Remand
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix

Lands [25]
1 Glacial Fortress
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Sulfur Falls
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Steam Vents
2 Tectonic Edge
4 Arid Mesa
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Scalding Tarn

Side
2 Aven Mindcensor
1 Batterskull
1 Celestial Purge
1 Counterflux
1 Damping Matrix
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Path to Exile
1 Sowing Salt
2 Stony Silence
2 Threads of Disloyalty
1 Thundermaw Hellkite
1 Wear // Tear

Deck Name: Twin Exarch Position: 2
Marcel Kachapow


Creatures [15]
2 Deceiver Exarch
2 Vendilion Clique
3 Grim Lavamancer
4 Pestermite
4 Snapcaster Mage

Instants [14]
2 Cryptic Command
2 Electrolyze
3 Izzet Charm
3 Remand
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [4]
4 Serum Visions

Enchantments [4]
4 Splinter Twin

Lands [23]
1 Desolate Lighthouse
1 Mountain
1 Stomping Ground
2 Tectonic Edge
3 Island
3 Sulfur Falls
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Steam Vents

Side
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Batterskull
1 Dispel
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Mana Leak
3 Molten Rain
2 Relic of Progenitus
1 Remand

Deck Name: UR Aggro Position: 3
Carlos Moral


Creatures [15]
1 Grim Lavamancer
2 Vendilion Clique
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Young Pyromancer

Instants [15]
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
3 Vapor Snag
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Remand

Sorceries [10]
2 Pillar of Flame
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Serum Visions

Lands [20]
1 Mountain
2 Mutavault
3 Steam Vents
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
6 Island

Side
2 Blood Moon
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Hibernation
2 Magma Spray
2 Negate
2 Shatterstorm
1 Spell Pierce
3 Threads of Disloyalty
1 Vendilion Clique

Deck Name: Jund Position: 4
Emanuele Giusti


Creatures [16]
1 Olivia Voldaren
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [8]
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Terminate
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [8]
2 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize

Planeswalkers [4]
4 Liliana of the Veil

Lands [24]
1 Blood Crypt
1 Forest
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Stomping Ground
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Swamp
2 Treetop Village
3 Marsh Flats
3 Raging Ravine
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Verdant Catacombs

Side
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Jund Charm
2 Obstinate Baloth
1 Olivia Voldaren
2 Slaughter Games
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Terminate
1 Thoughtseize
1 Thrun, the Last Troll

Deck Name: Eldrazi Green Position: 5
Bernhard Wurmitzer

Creatures [4]
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 Wurmcoil Engine

Sorceries [12]
4 Ancient Stirrings
4 Pyroclasm
4 Sylvan Scrying

Planeswalkers [4]
4 Karn Liberated

Artifacts [19]
3 Relic of Progenitus
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
4 Expedition Map
4 Oblivion Stone

Lands [21]
1 Eye of Ugin
2 Forest
2 Ghost Quarter
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower

Side
1 Ancient Grudge
2 Combust
1 Dismember
3 Nature's Claim
1 Spellskite
3 Stone Rain
3 Torpor Orb
1 Wurmcoil Engine

Deck Name: A-Jund Position: 6
Andrej Rutar


Creatures [14]
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [7]
1 Abrupt Decay
2 Path to Exile
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [9]
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Thoughtseize
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Lingering Souls

Planeswalkers [6]
2 Ajani Vengeant
4 Liliana of the Veil

Lands [24]
1 Arid Mesa
1 Blood Crypt
1 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Stomping Ground
1 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
2 Raging Ravine
2 Stirring Wildwood
3 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Marsh Flats
4 Verdant Catacombs

Side
1 Aven Mindcensor
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Jund Charm
2 Olivia Voldaren
3 Stony Silence
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Thoughtseize
2 Timely Reinforcements

Deck Name: The Rock Position: 7
Jeremy Dezani


Creatures [15]
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [5]
1 Darkblast
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Dismember

Sorceries [11]
1 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
4 Lingering Souls

Planeswalkers [5]
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
4 Liliana of the Veil

Lands [24]
1 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple Garden
1 Twilight Mire
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Swamp
4 Marsh Flats
4 Tectonic Edge
4 Treetop Village
4 Verdant Catacombs

Side
3 Aven Mindcensor
2 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Seal of Primordium
2 Spellskite
2 Stony Silence
1 Thoughtseize
2 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Torpor Orb

Deck Name: A-Jund Position: 8
Robin Dolar


Creatures [14]
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [7]
1 Abrupt Decay
2 Path to Exile
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [9]
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Thoughtseize
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Lingering Souls

Planeswalkers [6]
2 Ajani Vengeant
4 Liliana of the Veil

Lands [24]
1 Arid Mesa
1 Blood Crypt
1 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
1 Stomping Ground
1 Swamp
1 Temple Garden
2 Raging Ravine
2 Stirring Wildwood
3 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Marsh Flats
4 Verdant Catacombs

Side
3 Fulminator Mage
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Jund Charm
2 Olivia Voldaren
3 Stony Silence
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Thoughtseize
2 Timely Reinforcements

Deck Name: RUG Position: 9
A´kos Kenyeres


Creatures [14]
2 Vendilion Clique
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [19]
2 Burst Lightning
2 Cryptic Command
2 Deprive
2 Electrolyze
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
3 Mana Leak
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [4]
4 Serum Visions

Artifacts [2]
2 Vedalken Shackles

Lands [21]
1 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Stomping Ground
2 Breeding Pool
2 Steam Vents
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
6 Island

Side
3 Ancient Grudge
1 Batterskull
3 Blood Moon
2 Combust
2 Obstinate Baloth
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Threads of Disloyalty

Deck Name: UWr Control Position: 10
Michael Teppa


Creatures [3]
3 Snapcaster Mage

Instants [26]
2 Lightning Helix
2 Path to Exile
2 Sphinx's Revelation
2 Think Twice
3 Mana Leak
3 Spell Snare
4 Cryptic Command
4 Electrolyze
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [3]
1 Wrath of God
2 Supreme Verdict

Planeswalkers [2]
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Gideon Jura

Lands [26]
1 Glacial Fortress
1 Mountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Sulfur Falls
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Steam Vents
3 Arid Mesa
3 Island
3 Tectonic Edge
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Scalding Tarn

Side
2 Celestial Purge
2 Counterflux
2 Magma Spray
2 Pyroclasm
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Sowing Salt
2 Stony Silence
1 Wear // Tear

Deck Name: Jund Position: 11
Valentin Mackl


Creatures [16]
2 Huntmaster of the Fells
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [8]
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Terminate
4 Lightning Bolt

Sorceries [8]
2 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize

Planeswalkers [4]
4 Liliana of the Veil

Lands [24]
1 Blood Crypt
1 Forest
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Stomping Ground
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Raging Ravine
2 Swamp
3 Marsh Flats
3 Treetop Village
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Verdant Catacombs

Side
1 Ancient Grudge
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Batterskull
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Jund Charm
2 Rakdos Charm
2 Sowing Salt
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Thoughtseize

Deck Name: The Rock Position: 12
Lech Dutkiewicz


Creatures [15]
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Dark Confidant
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf

Instants [7]
1 Putrefy
3 Abrupt Decay
3 Dismember

Sorceries [8]
2 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize

Planeswalkers [5]
2 Garruk Relentless
3 Liliana of the Veil

Artifacts [1]
1 Batterskull

Lands [24]
1 Forest
1 Twilight Mire
3 Overgrown Tomb
3 Swamp
4 Marsh Flats
4 Tectonic Edge
4 Treetop Village
4 Verdant Catacombs

Side
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Damnation
1 Deglamer
2 Disfigure
4 Fulminator Mage
1 Gaze of Granite
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Oxidize
2 Shadow of Doubt
1 Thrun, the Last Troll

Deck Name: Birthing Pod Position: 13
Pierre Dagen


Creatures [31]
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Phantasmal Image
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Spellskite
1 Wall of Roots
1 Zealous Conscripts
2 Deceiver Exarch
2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
2 Voice of Resurgence
3 Kitchen Finks
3 Restoration Angel
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Noble Hierarch

Planeswalkers [2]
2 Domri Rade

Artifacts [4]
4 Birthing Pod

Lands [23]
1 Breeding Pool
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Forest
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Plains
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
2 Gavony Township
3 Arid Mesa
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Misty Rainforest

Side
1 Avalanche Riders
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Fiery Justice
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Negate
1 Obstinate Baloth
3 Path to Exile
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Voice of Resurgence

Deck Name: Merfolks Position: 14
Lukasz Szplit


Creatures [26]
2 Coralhelm Commander
2 Phantasmal Image
3 Cursecatcher
3 Master of Waves
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Master of the Pearl Trident
4 Merrow Reejerey
4 Silvergill Adept

Instants [4]
4 Vapor Snag

Enchantments [6]
2 Thassa, God of the Sea
4 Spreading Seas

Artifacts [4]
4 Aether Vial

Lands [20]
4 Mutavault
16 Island

Side
1 Damping Matrix
4 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Merfolk Assassin
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spellskite
3 Threads of Disloyalty

Deck Name: Birthing Pod Position: 15
Amand Dosimont


Creatures [31]
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Phantasmal Image
1 Spellskite
1 Zealous Conscripts
2 Deceiver Exarch
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
3 Restoration Angel
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Lotus Cobra
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Noble Hierarch

Planeswalkers [2]
2 Domri Rade

Artifacts [4]
4 Birthing Pod

Lands [23]
1 Breeding Pool
1 Forest
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
2 Scalding Tarn
4 Arid Mesa
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Misty Rainforest

Side
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Fiery Justice
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
2 Negate
1 Obstinate Baloth
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Spellskite
1 Thrun, the Last Troll

Deck Name: Infect Position: 16
Maximilien Berger


Creatures [19]
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Spellskite
4 Blighted Agent
4 Glistener Elf
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Plague Stinger

Instants [20]
2 Apostle's Blessing
2 Giant Growth
4 Groundswell
4 Might of Old Krosa
4 Mutagenic Growth
4 Vines of Vastwood

Enchantments [2]
2 Rancor

Lands [19]
2 Breeding Pool
2 Forest
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Pendelhaven
3 Verdant Catacombs
4 Inkmoth Nexus
4 Misty Rainforest

Side
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Dismember
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Nature's Claim
2 Pithing Needle
1 Spellskite

Complimenti ad Emanuele Giusti che arriva 4°.
Sperando di aver fatto cosa gradita
ciao :)


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga
MessaggioInviato: lun 13 gen 2014, 16:53 
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Iscritto il: mer 13 giu 2007, 21:27
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Vorrei aggiungere a quanto detto dal buon coma queste due liste, che se non sbaglio hanno entrambe fatto day2, e sicuramente Miller si stava giocando l'accesso alla top8 al turno 13.

Le ho viste entrambe durante i feature match e a parte la bravura dei player mi sono sembrate parecchio consistenti.

Jan Miller

1 Dakmor Salvage
4 Mutavault
17 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

4 Dark Confidant

2 Funeral Charm
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 [card]Raven's Crime[/card]
1 Scepter of Fugue
3 Shrieking Affliction
4 Smallpox
4 The Rack
4 Thoughtseize
3 Victim of Night

4 Liliana of the Veil

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2 Darkblast
2 Extirpate
2 Ghost Quarter
4 Leyline of the Void
2 [card]Night of Souls' Betrayal[/card]
2 Scepter of Fugue
1 Victim of Night

Mi sfugge l'utilita' di 2 carte qui: la salvage e lo scepter. Per il resto, quadrata.

Jan van der Vegt, Tin Fists

1 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Breeding Pool
3 City of Brass
1 Copperline Gorge
1 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Gemstone Mine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Watery Grave

4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Griselbrand
3 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Sylvan Caryatid

4 Faithless Looting
4 Fist of Suns
4 [card]Goryo's Vengeance[/card]
4 Izzet Charm
2 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
1 Thoughtseize
1 Through the Breach

Di questo non ho trovato la side, ma durante il coverage mi ricordo di aver visto almeno 1-2 Through the Breach aggiuntivi. Molto interessante l'idea dei Fists of Suns.


In generale durante i feature match mi sono fatto l'idea che le manabase del modern sono orride e difatti uno dei topettari ha vinto una partita perche' ha fatto denial pesante con tectonic edge e molten rain + snapcaster. Mi pare strano che nessuno abbia mai tentato di buildare uno "spaccaterre".

sperando di aver fatto cosa gradita ^^

Konx


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga
MessaggioInviato: lun 13 gen 2014, 17:06 
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La salvage è abbastanza standard in una lista di pox monob. E' carina perchè uno dei problemi che affliggono quei tipi di mazzi e' che tutte le spell che hai sono simmetriche. Liliana: scartiamo ENTRAMBI, smallpox: scartiamo e sacchiamo una terra ENTRAMBI. Questo alle volte ti puo' portare in situazioni del tipo : hai spell ( tipicamente removal ) che vuoi tenerti in mano e la terra che ti servira' per castarla sempre in mano e tiri uno smallpox. Se scarti la rimozione e lui fa creatura ti mangi le mani, se scarti la terra e lui fa creatura e tu non peschi la terra ti mangi le mani uguale. Dakmor Salvage risolve questi problemi. La scarti ( o la sacchi ) e se ti serve te la riprendi dragando. Inoltre è sinergica con Raven's Crime. In questa maniera ottimizzi quella carta. Non solo se vuoi vedere una carta che funziona dal cesso quanto dalla mano è meglio dragare X che pescare 1 ( con X > 1 ) ma in piu' dakmor salvage ti permette di attivare ogni turno raven's crime. Lo scettro penso sia per la stesso motivo. Tenere l'avversario a 0 carte in mano costantemente.


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 Oggetto del messaggio: Re: [M] [12/01/2014] GP Praga
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Bravo bella idea hai fatto cosa gradita ahahah :)
Scherzi a parte io ti posso solo parlare della lista con emrakulo perchè l'ho giocata:
al momento è ingiocabile proprio per il motivo che hai detto ossia il denial.
Carina la Sylvan Caryatid come acceleratore e carina anche l'idea di fist of suns, il punto è che però come già prima, se non passi da animino, e devi vederlo..., hai bisogno di 5 mana per tirare la bomba e quelli non li avra mai contro un rock/jund. poi rock a 2 colori si permette più denial con fulminator di main e non ci arrivi mai più :)
Perchè il rsto dell'hate lo gestisci bene o male.
tutto qui :)


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